Does tool_moodlebox_moodle43_2024032801.zip support MoodleBox 4.5.1?

Ratna

I was experimenting with MoodleBox 4.5.1 (details https://discuss.moodlebox.net/d/461-connecting-a-rpi-zero-2-w-bullseye-moodlebox-to-a-wireless-lan-as-well). Somewhere I noticed that Site administration > Plugins complains that the MoodleBox plug-in is outdated and needs a newer one. Which I did through the Moodle front-end ('admin' GUI). Much later, as I wanted the Moodle Dashboard it wasn't there. I removed the plug-in directory and copied back the one from MB 4.5.1. The upgrade script complained that can't go back to older versions. Then I uninstalled the plug-in properly and copied the old one back again. This time it accepted and I have the MB Dashboard.

My question is whether tool_moodlebox_moodle43_2024032801.zip is not compatible with MB 4.5.1? If so, why the GUI allows installing it?

Nicolas

Ratna My question is whether tool_moodlebox_moodle43_2024032801.zip is not compatible with MB 4.5.1?

Strictly, the MoodleBox plugin is developed to be compatible with Moodle versions, like any other Moodle plugin. So whether it is compatible with an image depends on the Moodle version installed on this image.

IIRC, MoodleBox image v4.5.1 has Moodle 4.1+, therefore MoodleBox plugin should be compatible with it.

Ratna

Nicolas

I am careful in talking of "any other plug-ins" because the additional plug-ins have various versioning concepts. As a end user I would expect a list of plug-in versions and for each a list of compatible Moodle versions. Example https://moodle.org/plugins/theme_stream/versions.

Yes, the current MoodleBox plug-in, report_benchmark_moodle41_2023012800.zip, claims to be compatible with all Moodle versions since 2.7: https://moodle.org/plugins/report_benchmark/versions. I wonder why then MoodleBox 4.5.1 brought up a warning that a newer version is available?

Nicolas

Ratna claims to be compatible with all Moodle versions since 2.7

And it really is.

Ratna I wonder why then MoodleBox 4.5.1 brought up a warning that a newer version is available?

MoodleBox did not warn you: the Moodle instance on your MoodleBox did. What's the Moodle version?

Ratna

Nicolas It was a fresh MoodleBox 4.5.1, running Moodle 4.1 LTS.

Ratna

I can confirm the behaviour I reported in the OP. I repeated the steps as given below and "lost" the MoodleBox plugin!

R Pi 3 A+
Make a MoodleBox 4.5.1 (It has Moodle 4.1+)
Git upgrade it to 4.1.14. Kick the upgrade from the web interface. Slow, but finishes.
The plug-in page detects that the MoodleBox plug-in needs an upgrade
Do the upgrade (on the 'admin' GUI). All goes successfully.

The new directory ./admin/tool/moodlebox is there (and readable to the web server). The version.php has:
$plugin->version = 2024032801;
$plugin->release = '2.17.5';
$plugin->requires = 2018120300;
$plugin->supported = [36, 403];
$plugin->maturity = MATURITY_STABLE;
$plugin->component = 'tool_moodlebox';

But the two MoodleBox links are gone from the bottom of the Site administration > Server page!

Nicolas

I think I understand now. Please check if you find the MoodleBox link in the main administration navigation, as in the screenshot below.

Ratna

Nicolas

LOL. All these years I didn't know that MB has its own menu. Now I know why, I work on a narrow screen and that menu is below "More".

Anyway, that menu is there and responds. Do you know what is happening? I mean, why it is no more under Server?

Nicolas

This was a new feature of MoodleBox plugin version 2.16.0.

Ratna

Nicolas

I finally get it: I've successfully upgraded the MB plug-in too. The newer version moved itself from the Server menu to the main menu!

"Who moved my cheese"? ;-)